From mariak at mariakathryn.net Sat Jun 1 21:10:44 2013 From: mariak at mariakathryn.net (Maria McKinley) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 14:10:44 -0700 Subject: [Techtalk] php help In-Reply-To: <51A6C703.1040004@shefen.com> References: <51A6C703.1040004@shefen.com> Message-ID: Okay, I have figured out that it is indeed something about php within html. I have made sure all of my files are saved with utf-8 encoding. Here is the deal. If I take a file and write this in it: PHP Test I get the funny letters. If I take the same file with the same editor, erase what is in it and write this: The funny letters go away, and vise-versa. Any more ideas? thanks, maria On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Sheila Fenelon wrote: > Maria McKinley wrote: > > > > I am getting weird characters at the bottom of my php page outputs, and I > > can't figure out why. My searches tell me it is related to character > > encoding, but I can't figure out where else I could change the encoding. > > > > ella:~# echo $LANG > > en_US.UTF-8 > > > > I've set encoding for utf-8 in /etc/apache2/conf.d/charset and php.ini > > > > To look at what I am talking about at the very bottom of this page are > the > > weird characters: > > > > http://www.shadlenlab.columbia.edu/test.php > > > > This is a very simple php page: > > > > > > > > PHP Test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The characters do not show up on an html page with no php. Any ideas? > > > > I can't recreate it here with PHP 5.2 on 32-bit Debian. But it goes away > when I use > wget to capture that page. > > Is it on all PHP pages or just that one? Because that page has extra HTML. > All it > needs is > > > > and a complete HTML page will be generated. > > -- > Sheila Fenelon > http://www.shefen.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Techtalk mailing list > Techtalk at linuxchix.org > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > -- Maria Mckinley Programmer and System Administrator www.mariakathryn.net www.linkedin.com/in/mariamckinley From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Mon Jun 3 01:23:57 2013 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 06:53:57 +0530 Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition Message-ID: WFS India in collaboration with Glug-Cal, Fedora and Mozilla announces a poster competition on women's, LGBT and gender-related issues in India using free software tools as part of the extended Cultural Freedom Day celebrations. http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues Important Dates: Submission Begins: 3rd June'2013 Last Date of Submission: 14th June'2013 Announcement of Results: 15th June'2013 Gallery Update: By 24th June'2013 http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS http://www.logicamani.in From sheila at shefen.com Mon Jun 3 14:45:14 2013 From: sheila at shefen.com (Sheila Fenelon) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 09:45:14 -0500 Subject: [Techtalk] php help In-Reply-To: References: <51A6C703.1040004@shefen.com> Message-ID: <51ACABFA.9010401@shefen.com> Are you sure it's all PHP pages or just that one, with phpinfo() inside HTML code? What happens with this PHP Test

Sheila Maria McKinley wrote: > Okay, I have figured out that it is indeed something about php within > html. I have made sure all of my files are saved with utf-8 encoding. > > Here is the deal. If I take a file and write this in it: > > > > PHP Test > > > > > > > I get the funny letters. If I take the same file with the same editor, > erase what is in it and write this: > > > > The funny letters go away, and vise-versa. Any more ideas? > > thanks, > maria > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Sheila Fenelon > wrote: > > Maria McKinley wrote: > > > > I am getting weird characters at the bottom of my php page > outputs, and I > > can't figure out why. My searches tell me it is related to character > > encoding, but I can't figure out where else I could change the > encoding. > > > > ella:~# echo $LANG > > en_US.UTF-8 > > > > I've set encoding for utf-8 in /etc/apache2/conf.d/charset and php.ini > > > > To look at what I am talking about at the very bottom of this page > are the > > weird characters: > > > > http://www.shadlenlab.columbia.edu/test.php > > > > This is a very simple php page: > > > > > > > > PHP Test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The characters do not show up on an html page with no php. Any ideas? > > > > I can't recreate it here with PHP 5.2 on 32-bit Debian. But it goes > away when I use > wget to capture that page. > > Is it on all PHP pages or just that one? Because that page has extra > HTML. All it > needs is > > > > and a complete HTML page will be generated. > > -- > Sheila Fenelon > http://www.shefen.com/ > From mariak at mariakathryn.net Mon Jun 3 19:12:44 2013 From: mariak at mariakathryn.net (Maria McKinley) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:12:44 -0700 Subject: [Techtalk] php help In-Reply-To: <51ACABFA.9010401@shefen.com> References: <51A6C703.1040004@shefen.com> <51ACABFA.9010401@shefen.com> Message-ID: Question mark character with the hello world php inside the html, none with just php. :-( thanks, maria On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Sheila Fenelon wrote: > Are you sure it's all PHP pages or just that one, with phpinfo() inside > HTML code? > > What happens with this > > > > PHP Test > > >

> > > > Sheila > > > Maria McKinley wrote: > > Okay, I have figured out that it is indeed something about php within > > html. I have made sure all of my files are saved with utf-8 encoding. > > > > Here is the deal. If I take a file and write this in it: > > > > > > > > PHP Test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I get the funny letters. If I take the same file with the same editor, > > erase what is in it and write this: > > > > > > > > The funny letters go away, and vise-versa. Any more ideas? > > > > thanks, > > maria > > > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Sheila Fenelon > > wrote: > > > > Maria McKinley wrote: > > > > > > I am getting weird characters at the bottom of my php page > > outputs, and I > > > can't figure out why. My searches tell me it is related to > character > > > encoding, but I can't figure out where else I could change the > > encoding. > > > > > > ella:~# echo $LANG > > > en_US.UTF-8 > > > > > > I've set encoding for utf-8 in /etc/apache2/conf.d/charset and > php.ini > > > > > > To look at what I am talking about at the very bottom of this page > > are the > > > weird characters: > > > > > > http://www.shadlenlab.columbia.edu/test.php > > > > > > This is a very simple php page: > > > > > > > > > > > > PHP Test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The characters do not show up on an html page with no php. Any > ideas? > > > > > > > I can't recreate it here with PHP 5.2 on 32-bit Debian. But it goes > > away when I use > > wget to capture that page. > > > > Is it on all PHP pages or just that one? Because that page has extra > > HTML. All it > > needs is > > > > > > > > and a complete HTML page will be generated. > > > > -- > > Sheila Fenelon > > http://www.shefen.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Techtalk mailing list > Techtalk at linuxchix.org > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > -- Maria Mckinley Programmer and System Administrator www.mariakathryn.net www.linkedin.com/in/mariamckinley From svaksha at gmail.com Thu Jun 6 21:48:34 2013 From: svaksha at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktw==?=) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 03:18:34 +0530 Subject: [Techtalk] [IndiChix] Poster Competition Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:23 AM, A. Mani wrote: > WFS India in collaboration with Glug-Cal, Fedora and Mozilla announces > a poster competition on women's, LGBT and gender-related issues in > India using free software tools as part of the extended Cultural > Freedom Day celebrations. > > > http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues Hey, Where can I submit a patch for the "Background" section? I found the language quite brusque which wont help if we want to bridge the gap. Since it is about women, I am taking the liberty of providing a bug-fix below :) First a short note on why I'm rooting for a change: Like most Indian woman I too have experienced all the issues first-hand, written (erm..ranted on my blog and in IRL discussions) a lot on sexism and other issues we women face BUT all that has been limited to my blog or IRL discussions. When we are creating a poster to get more women and students involved in FOSS, it is easier to use language that is more professional and inviting. People respond better to politeness (I know, I do) than sarcasm and rudeness. We can speak the truth about women and LGBT in a friendlier, polite manner - the impact will be greater. That said, here is the patch (its not perfect, so feel free to bug-fix it): Background India being a multi-ethnic, multi-racial country, while coping with challenges of corruption and a billion (and growing) population is slowly coping with the silent half - women and the LGBT populace. India has a 5000-year history that straddles the the modern - the spectrum of a cell-phone totting farmer, a tweeting teenager, a technophile home-maker, an artistic designer, and half a billion more who are embracing technology in Planck time. And yet, this majority are still finding their voices in their struggle to retain their space while retaining basic human values within our society. Your challenge is to bring out your virtual brushes and paint away your thoughts that will pictorally depict this struggle while celebrating their diversity. Can you retain the essence of India's 5000-year history that straddles the modern world? Exercise your creative freedom with Free/Libre open source software and other technologies. Your poster may just be the inspiration that gives them a voice to fight for their rights, a vision of a better tomorrow, a tomorrow that has the freedom and space for their dreams while allowing them to remain rooted in the Indian ethos. If you have hosted the poster text on github (or any other dvcs), please point me to it so that I can make a pull request for the above. I just spent over an hour being creative in my editing (instead of the Julia workshop announcement) and its 3 am, so please be kind in your criticism. I have also tried to retain some text that talks about the social problems in a discreet manner - it alludes to problems that need solutions but does not explicitly describe it. In a country that struggles to keep the "girl child" in schools, its easy to scare them off with words like "sex education" - At some schools, parents would be up in arms over it. I also wish the rule #2 would be relaxed a bit. When I started volunteering in 2005 as a list-admin for two mailing lists at linuxchix.org, I was still using Windows on a partitioned drive. It took me a few months to ditch the dual-boot and switch over completely to Ubuntu Linux. ...and I still have never used more than half the tools listed there. So yeah, I plead ignorance to the xcf and eps formats too. Hope you can consider some of my suggestions ! Thank you ! -- svaksha ? http://svaksha.com ? From info at andeshelp.net Fri Jun 7 00:14:09 2013 From: info at andeshelp.net (Andes help Info) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 20:14:09 -0400 Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01db01ce6313$f04a6960$d0df3c20$@net> Since when does this disgusting stuff have anything to do with Linux???? -----Original Message----- From: techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org [mailto:techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org] On Behalf Of A. Mani Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 9:24 PM To: LinuxChix-India; techtalk at linuxchix.org Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition WFS India in collaboration with Glug-Cal, Fedora and Mozilla announces a poster competition on women's, LGBT and gender-related issues in India using free software tools as part of the extended Cultural Freedom Day celebrations. http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues Important Dates: Submission Begins: 3rd June'2013 Last Date of Submission: 14th June'2013 Announcement of Results: 15th June'2013 Gallery Update: By 24th June'2013 http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS http://www.logicamani.in _______________________________________________ Techtalk mailing list Techtalk at linuxchix.org http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk From carla at bratgrrl.com Fri Jun 7 03:19:30 2013 From: carla at bratgrrl.com (Carla Schroder) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 20:19:30 -0700 Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition In-Reply-To: <01db01ce6313$f04a6960$d0df3c20$@net> References: <01db01ce6313$f04a6960$d0df3c20$@net> Message-ID: <20130606201930.60af1253@studio.alrac.net> My dear Andes Help Info, you are welcome to avoid these things, and I invite you to do so. Carla Schroder, Linuxchix co-coordinator On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 20:14:09 -0400 "Andes help Info" wrote: > Since when does this disgusting stuff have anything to do with > Linux???? > > -----Original Message----- > From: techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org > [mailto:techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org] On Behalf Of A. Mani > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 9:24 PM > To: LinuxChix-India; techtalk at linuxchix.org > Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition > > WFS India in collaboration with Glug-Cal, Fedora and Mozilla > announces a poster competition on women's, LGBT and gender-related > issues in India using free software tools as part of the extended > Cultural Freedom Day celebrations. > > > http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues > > > Important Dates: > > Submission Begins: 3rd June'2013 > Last Date of Submission: 14th June'2013 > Announcement of Results: 15th June'2013 > Gallery Update: By 24th June'2013 > > http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues > > > > Best > > A. Mani > > > -- > A. Mani > CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS > http://www.logicamani.in > _______________________________________________ > Techtalk mailing list > Techtalk at linuxchix.org > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > _______________________________________________ > Techtalk mailing list > Techtalk at linuxchix.org > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carla Schroder ace Linux nerd buy my books! Book of Audacity, Linux Networking Cookbook, Linux Cookbook ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From raen at internode.on.net Fri Jun 7 04:44:59 2013 From: raen at internode.on.net (Raena Lea-Shannon) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 14:44:59 +1000 Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition Message-ID: Dear Andes Fair enough it is not tech talk but are you baiting the fine people on this list by referring to fedora & Mozilla as 'disgusting'? Sent from my mobile Carla Schroder wrote: >My dear Andes Help Info, you are welcome to avoid these things, and I invite you to do so. > >Carla Schroder, Linuxchix co-coordinator > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 20:14:09 -0400 >"Andes help Info" wrote: > >> Since when does this disgusting stuff have anything to do with >> Linux???? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org >> [mailto:techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org] On Behalf Of A. Mani >> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 9:24 PM >> To: LinuxChix-India; techtalk at linuxchix.org >> Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition >> >> WFS India in collaboration with Glug-Cal, Fedora and Mozilla >> announces a poster competition on women's, LGBT and gender-related >> issues in India using free software tools as part of the extended >> Cultural Freedom Day celebrations. >> >> >> http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues >> >> >> Important Dates: >> >> Submission Begins: 3rd June'2013 >> Last Date of Submission: 14th June'2013 >> Announcement of Results: 15th June'2013 >> Gallery Update: By 24th June'2013 >> >> http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues >> >> >> >> Best >> >> A. Mani >> >> >> -- >> A. Mani >> CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS >> http://www.logicamani.in >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtalk mailing list >> Techtalk at linuxchix.org >> http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Techtalk mailing list >> Techtalk at linuxchix.org >> http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > > >-- >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Carla Schroder >ace Linux nerd >buy my books! Book of Audacity, >Linux Networking Cookbook, >Linux Cookbook >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >_______________________________________________ >Techtalk mailing list >Techtalk at linuxchix.org >http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk From mim at miriam-english.org Fri Jun 7 04:41:21 2013 From: mim at miriam-english.org (Miriam English) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 14:41:21 +1000 Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition In-Reply-To: <01db01ce6313$f04a6960$d0df3c20$@net> References: <01db01ce6313$f04a6960$d0df3c20$@net> Message-ID: <51B16471.1070500@miriam-english.org> Why wouldn't it relate to linuxchix? It does have to do with women using free software tools (Fedora is one of the sponsors). What's disgusting about it? [puzzled] - Miriam Andes help Info wrote: > Since when does this disgusting stuff have anything to do with Linux???? > > -----Original Message----- > From: techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org [mailto:techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org] > On Behalf Of A. Mani > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 9:24 PM > To: LinuxChix-India; techtalk at linuxchix.org > Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition > > WFS India in collaboration with Glug-Cal, Fedora and Mozilla announces a > poster competition on women's, LGBT and gender-related issues in India using > free software tools as part of the extended Cultural Freedom Day > celebrations. > > > http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues > > > Important Dates: > > Submission Begins: 3rd June'2013 > Last Date of Submission: 14th June'2013 > Announcement of Results: 15th June'2013 > Gallery Update: By 24th June'2013 > > http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues > > > > Best > > A. Mani > > > -- > A. Mani > CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS > http://www.logicamani.in > _______________________________________________ > Techtalk mailing list > Techtalk at linuxchix.org > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > _______________________________________________ > Techtalk mailing list > Techtalk at linuxchix.org > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > -- If you don't have any failures then you're not trying hard enough. - Dr. Charles Elachi, director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory ----- Website: http://miriam-english.org Blogs: http://miriam-e.dreamwidth.org http://miriam-e.livejournal.com From kendrawiseman at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 05:02:42 2013 From: kendrawiseman at gmail.com (Kendra Schaefer) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:02:42 +0800 Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition In-Reply-To: <51B16471.1070500@miriam-english.org> References: <01db01ce6313$f04a6960$d0df3c20$@net> <51B16471.1070500@miriam-english.org> Message-ID: Yerm, well, I'm into Linux, I'm a chick, and I think it's relevant. I used to do a lot of copywriting for NGOs, so here is my "bugfix" :) - feel free to tear it up. *India is a multi-ethnic, multi-racial country one billion souls strong and growing. The road from developing nation to first-world country is a long and arduous one, and among India's most pressing problems are official corruption and the suppression of women and the LGBT community.* * * *Though India is an ancient nation with a 5000-year history, its people have fully embraced technical modernity, from cell-phone toting farmers to tweeting teenagers, technophile home-makers to artistic designers, and half a billion more who are coming online, communicating, coding and interacting in Planck time. * * And yet, this majority are still struggling to finding their voices while retaining basic human values within our society. Your challenge is to bring out your virtual brushes and pictorially depict this struggle while celebrating their diversity. Can you retain the essence of India's history while looking forward into its future? Exercise your creative freedom with Free/Libre open source software and other technologies. Your poster may be the inspiration that gives them a voice to fight for their rights, a vision of a better tomorrow, a tomorrow that gives them the freedom and space to dream while allowing them to remain rooted in the Indian ethos.* On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Miriam English wrote: > Why wouldn't it relate to linuxchix? It does have to do with women using > free software tools (Fedora is one of the sponsors). What's disgusting > about it? > > [puzzled] > > - Miriam > > > Andes help Info wrote: > >> Since when does this disgusting stuff have anything to do with Linux???? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org [mailto:techtalk-bounces@** >> linuxchix.org ] >> On Behalf Of A. Mani >> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 9:24 PM >> To: LinuxChix-India; techtalk at linuxchix.org >> Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition >> >> WFS India in collaboration with Glug-Cal, Fedora and Mozilla announces a >> poster competition on women's, LGBT and gender-related issues in India >> using >> free software tools as part of the extended Cultural Freedom Day >> celebrations. >> >> >> http://www.wfs-india.org/p/**poster-competition-womens-and-**lgbt-issues >> >> >> Important Dates: >> >> Submission Begins: 3rd June'2013 >> Last Date of Submission: 14th June'2013 >> Announcement of Results: 15th June'2013 >> Gallery Update: By 24th June'2013 >> >> http://www.wfs-india.org/p/**poster-competition-womens-and-**lgbt-issues >> >> >> >> Best >> >> A. Mani >> >> >> -- >> A. Mani >> CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS >> http://www.logicamani.in >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Techtalk mailing list >> Techtalk at linuxchix.org >> http://mailman.linuxchix.org/**mailman/listinfo/techtalk >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Techtalk mailing list >> Techtalk at linuxchix.org >> http://mailman.linuxchix.org/**mailman/listinfo/techtalk >> >> >> > -- > If you don't have any failures then you're not trying hard enough. > - Dr. Charles Elachi, director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory > ----- > Website: http://miriam-english.org > Blogs: http://miriam-e.dreamwidth.org > http://miriam-e.livejournal.**com > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Techtalk mailing list > Techtalk at linuxchix.org > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/**mailman/listinfo/techtalk > From robyn at robynspcs.com Fri Jun 7 05:21:36 2013 From: robyn at robynspcs.com (Robyn Willison) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 14:51:36 +0930 Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition In-Reply-To: <51B16471.1070500@miriam-english.org> References: <01db01ce6313$f04a6960$d0df3c20$@net> <51B16471.1070500@miriam-english.org> Message-ID: <51B16DE0.3030908@robynspcs.com> Some people still turn puce at the mention of LGBT and gender-related issues. So much so they can't even say it they have to call it 'stuff'. Dodge it and shut up Andes if you don't like it. Robyn On 7/06/2013 2:11 PM, Miriam English wrote: > Why wouldn't it relate to linuxchix? It does have to do with women using > free software tools (Fedora is one of the sponsors). What's disgusting > about it? > > [puzzled] > > - Miriam > > Andes help Info wrote: >> Since when does this disgusting stuff have anything to do with Linux???? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org >> [mailto:techtalk-bounces at linuxchix.org] >> On Behalf Of A. Mani >> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 9:24 PM >> To: LinuxChix-India; techtalk at linuxchix.org >> Subject: [Techtalk] Poster Competition >> >> WFS India in collaboration with Glug-Cal, Fedora and Mozilla announces a >> poster competition on women's, LGBT and gender-related issues in India >> using >> free software tools as part of the extended Cultural Freedom Day >> celebrations. >> >> >> http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues >> >> >> Important Dates: >> >> Submission Begins: 3rd June'2013 >> Last Date of Submission: 14th June'2013 >> Announcement of Results: 15th June'2013 >> Gallery Update: By 24th June'2013 >> >> http://www.wfs-india.org/p/poster-competition-womens-and-lgbt-issues >> >> >> >> Best >> >> A. Mani >> >> > From debamitro at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 07:07:35 2013 From: debamitro at gmail.com (Debamitro Chakraborti) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:37:35 +0530 Subject: [Techtalk] [IndiChix] Fwd: [WFS-India] Fwd: Poster Competition In-Reply-To: References: <51B182B4.6020309@codebinders.com> Message-ID: +1 Svaksha, your writeup is really good and much more sensible, and more likely to encourage participation of women and LGBT in the poster competition On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Satabdi Das wrote: > FYI > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kaustav Das Modak > Date: Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:20 PM > Subject: Re: [WFS-India] Fwd: [IndiChix] Poster Competition > To: wfs-india at lists.openhatch.org > > > On Friday 07 June 2013 12:02 PM, Satabdi Das wrote: > >> Forwarding Svaksha's mail since she is not in our group (yet). >> >> > > >> If you have hosted the poster text on github (or any other dvcs), >> please point me to it so that I can make a pull request for the above. >> >> > Thanks you for your inputs Svaksha. I have created a public etherpad at > https://wfs-india.etherpad.**mozilla.org/6with the present content and your suggested text. > > > -- > Kaustav Das Modak > Desinated Partner > CodeBinders Web Development Services LLP > > Web: http://www.codebinders.com > Blog: http://kaustav.codebinders.com > Ph: (+91) 9874456551 > ______________________________**_________________ > > WFS-India mailing list > WFS-India at lists.openhatch.org > > Message archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/** > wfs-india at lists.openhatch.org/ > > Unsubscribe: To unsubscribe, please login to your account at > http://www.wfs-india.org/ and unsubscribe to the WFS-India list from your > account settings. > > -- WFS-India - http://www.wfs-india.org > > > > -- > Whatever you do may seem insignificant to you, but it is most important > that you do it . > Find me on the internet > > > _______________________________________________ > IndiChix mailing list > IndiChix at linuxchix.org > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/indichix > > -- http://about.me/debamitro *don't polish your ignorance, it will shine* From svaksha at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 09:20:11 2013 From: svaksha at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktw==?=) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:50:11 +0530 Subject: [Techtalk] [IndiChix] Poster Competition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, On 6/7/13, Satabdi Das wrote: > Hi Svaksha, > > I have forwarded your email to the mailing list of WFS-INDIA Thanks. > wfs-india at lists.openhatch.org. We are having a discussion there on this and > it would be great if you join that mailing list and participate in it. I just read the archives (of wfs-india) and TBH, as a woman, I would never want to speak for ALL-the-women or claim to be a "feminist", so when men do that ... *sigh* ..I find it tiresome to deal with Mansplaining (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Mansplaining&t=canonical). Instead, I'll share with you what I have learned from observing female peers : * If you are a women's group (running one or building one), you want men as allies, not as decision makers: Read, if men are going to be telling you "what to do/how to think/etc.." in a women's group, its just as bad as the patriarchy they claim to protect you from. * Supporting "women" means, not intruding in their space or telling them how to think/ opine, allowing them to fail and being there to break that fall are crucial. When you observe babies learning to walk, they'd fall on the first try, but they'd still learn to walk ON THEIR OWN, in time. * Stepping back is crucial: Men (as allies), need to be open to feedback from anyone really but especially from women. Stepping-back when women opine why something makes them uncomfortable, or while she requests a change is the hallmark of receptive listening. Fwiw, this gyan was, surprisingly, given to me by two male FOSS friends and I've heard and experienced its echo with multiple male supporters who are not afraid of giving women control to run their own groups. I am still learning to be discerning with the above. Hope that helps you grow your own wings :) Goodluck ! -- svaksha ? http://svaksha.com ? From svaksha at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 09:22:29 2013 From: svaksha at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktw==?=) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:52:29 +0530 Subject: [Techtalk] [IndiChix] Fwd: [WFS-India] Fwd: Poster Competition In-Reply-To: References: <51B182B4.6020309@codebinders.com> Message-ID: On 6/7/13, Satabdi Das wrote: > Thanks you for your inputs Svaksha. I have created a public etherpad at > https://wfs-india.etherpad.**mozilla.org/6with > the present content and your suggested text. Kendra made some nice edits, so I've updated it. Here is the link: http://mailman.linuxchix.org/pipermail/techtalk/2013-June/025133.html svaksha ? http://svaksha.com ? From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 14:36:49 2013 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 20:06:49 +0530 Subject: [Techtalk] [IndiChix] Fwd: [WFS-India] Fwd: Poster Competition In-Reply-To: References: <51B182B4.6020309@codebinders.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:52 PM, ?????? wrote: > Kendra made some nice edits, so I've updated it. Here is the link: > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/pipermail/techtalk/2013-June/025133.html This write up is more or less all right but flawed when it comes to framing the cultural perspective and has outright lies in it. So here is a second modification: >Yerm, well, I'm into Linux, I'm a chick, and I think it's relevant. I used > to do a lot of copywriting for NGOs, so here is my "bugfix" :) - feel free > to tear it up. Thanks. GNU/Linux or are you a kernel devel :) Some points: 'to a first world country' : that is framing with a development model in mind. half a billion Indians on Internet ..... SOURCE?. souls ... nonsense :) planck time = 5.39106(32) ? 10?44 s So very few people actually go online .... :) Cell phone adoption figures are not clear due to people having too many subscriptions. "remain rooted in the Indian ethos" ... that is condemning them to a wretched life. _________________________________ *India is a multi-ethnic, multi-racial country one billion strong and growing. The road of a developing nation is a long and arduous one, and among India's most pressing problems are official corruption and the suppression of women and the LGBT community.* * * *Though India is an ancient nation with a 5000-year history, a substantial section of its well-off people have embraced modern technicality, from cell-phone toting farmers to tweeting teenagers, technophile home-makers to artistic designers, and more who are coming online, communicating, coding and interacting in real time. * * And yet, these people are still struggling to finding their voices while retaining basic human values within our society. Your challenge is to bring out your virtual brushes and pictorially depict this struggle while celebrating their diversity. Do you see any point in India's history while looking forward into its future? Exercise your creative freedom with Free/Libre open source software and other technologies. Your poster may be the inspiration that gives them a voice to fight for their rights, a vision of a better tomorrow, a tomorrow that gives them the freedom and space to dream while allowing them to explore the problems of their culture.* ________________________________________ The current plan is to restrict possible topics for posters I think we need a additional section for that because of the above. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS http://www.logicamani.in From svaksha at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 16:52:53 2013 From: svaksha at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktw==?=) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 22:22:53 +0530 Subject: [Techtalk] [IndiChix] Fwd: [WFS-India] Fwd: Poster Competition In-Reply-To: References: <51B182B4.6020309@codebinders.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:06 PM, A. Mani wrote: > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:52 PM, ?????? wrote: > >> Kendra made some nice edits, so I've updated it. Here is the link: >> http://mailman.linuxchix.org/pipermail/techtalk/2013-June/025133.html > > > This write up is more or less all right but flawed when it comes to > framing the cultural perspective and has outright lies in it. Hi Mani, I'll take the fall for that since she edited my text and was only trying to help. Feel free to tell me where I'm wrong. For the rest of the folks reading this, the meeting is going on at #wfs-india on freenode now. Feel free to join in. > So here is a second modification: > > Some points: > > 'to a first world country' : that is framing with a development model in mind. > half a billion Indians on Internet ..... SOURCE?. > souls ... nonsense :) > planck time = 5.39106(32) ? 10?44 s > So very few people actually go online .... :) > Cell phone adoption figures are not clear due to people having too > many subscriptions. > "remain rooted in the Indian ethos" ... that is condemning them to a > wretched life. > _________________________________ > > > *India is a multi-ethnic, multi-racial country one billion strong and > growing. The road of a developing nation is a long > and arduous one, and among India's most pressing problems are official > corruption and the suppression of women and the LGBT community.* > * > * > *Though India is an ancient nation with a 5000-year history, a > substantial section of > its well-off people have embraced modern technicality, from cell-phone > toting farmers to > tweeting teenagers, technophile home-makers to artistic designers, and > more who are coming online, communicating, coding and interacting > in real time. * > * > And yet, these people are still struggling to finding their voices while > retaining basic human values within our society. Your challenge is to bring > out your virtual brushes and pictorially depict this struggle while > celebrating their diversity. > > Do you see any point in India's history while looking forward into > its future? Exercise your creative freedom with Free/Libre open source > software and other technologies. Your poster may be the inspiration that > gives them a voice to fight for their rights, a vision of a better tomorrow, > a tomorrow that gives them the freedom and space to dream while allowing > them to explore the problems of their culture.* > > ________________________________________ > > The current plan is to restrict possible topics for posters > I think we need a additional section for that because of the above. > > > > > Best > > A. Mani > > > -- > A. Mani > CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS > http://www.logicamani.in -- svaksha ? http://svaksha.com ? From littlergirl at gmail.com Sun Jun 9 19:01:05 2013 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 15:01:05 -0400 Subject: [Techtalk] Basic connection questions - Wired works now, at least In-Reply-To: References: <51A4E06A.5020509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51b4d0f2.84e2b60a.62e0.39e8@mx.google.com> Hey there, mgmonza at ukato.freeshell.org wrote: > On Wed, 29 May 2013, Wim De Smet wrote: > > At boot, ifup should be run, so that would start the original > > dhclient process that's trying to get an IP onto the interface. I > > don't know why it wouldn't be getting an IP this way, normally > > dhclient works even if NM is managing the interface. Do you have > > any sort of firewalling configured? > As the subj. line says, the wired connection works at boot up, -if- > I haven't monkeyed with NM at all, just left all of it on. (No > firewalling, so that wasn't it). I think it was taking NM down and > back up that confused dhclient One other thing to consider is that it could be a hardware issue. You may have to unplug the modem and router and then plug in the modem and make sure it's fully initialized before you plug in the router (or vice versa if, for some reason, doing it that way doesn't solve it). Good luck! (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From carla at bratgrrl.com Wed Jun 12 21:27:43 2013 From: carla at bratgrrl.com (Carla Schroder) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:27:43 -0700 Subject: [Techtalk] help debugging some JS Message-ID: <20130612142743.5368aa15@studio.alrac.net> hey all, I have a weird Javascript problem that is defying my feeble JS skills to resolve. One of the sites I herd, socialmediatoday.com, uses the Gigya social login and sharing widget. The problem is the Twitter sharing widget doesn't handle ampersands in article titles correctly, so this Social Advocacy & Politics: All Secrecy and No Privacy in the Surveillance Society becomes this: Social Advocacy & Politics: All Secrecy and No Privacy in the Surveillance Society You can try this for yourself at https://socialmediatoday.com/drdigipol/1526916/social-advocacy-politics-all-secrecy-and-no-privacy-surveillance-society The odd thing is the Facebook sharing widget doesn't do this, but passes on the article title correctly, with the ampersand instead of & I asked the nice Gigya people about it, and this what they said: "The title on the page doesn't matter because in their javascript you are passing Gigya a UserAction object: